Cheapest Way for 12's in the 1/4 (Cobra or GT?)

[kurtwz]

Hello, I was wondering if you guys could help me narrow down my choice for a new (used) Mustang. I’m looking to get one that’s pretty quick. I’ll probably want something that will do mid to high 12’s in the 1/4 mile. I want to get a 94-01 Mustang and I’m looking at the GTs and Cobras. I would prefer to modify the car just because it’s fun and I need help deciding what combination makes the most sense. What’s the cheapest way of attaining 12’s in the 1/4 between a 90’s GT versus a 90’s Cobra? Should I do a supercharger? Are there any turbo kits for those cars? Would I be anywhere close to that performance without forced-induction? I’d like to stay away from NOS, by the way.

[Kinger]

Different motors in those year cars! But, if you just want time slip, use Nitrious! A few hundred bux can get ya in the 12's

[kurtwz]

That’s fine; I’m not looking for one type of motor, necessarily. I’m not interested in getting a time slip. I’m probably not even going to take the car to the track. I used the 1/4 mile time just as a quantitative way of describing how quick I would like the car to be. I want a well-mannered car for everyday diving and also a car that is a pretty good performer on the track since I’m planning on driving this car several days per week and taking it to Heartland Park’s road course a couple times per year. Because I want the car to be fast for every day driving, I want to avoid getting nitrous.

[Neb50]

You need narrow your car down a little before anyone can give you meaningfull advice.

That said, any of the 94-01's v8 mustangs are capable of running 12 for around $2000 in mods if you are willing to run nitrous and slicks. It is going to take between $3500-5000 to do the same with forced induction, depending on the car. Also, the 96+ Cobras are capable of doing it N/A with around $1500-2000 in mods and a **** good driver.

[kurtwz]

Cool! :woohoo: Wow, that’s encouraging that so little money can get a lot of performance. OK, so if I must narrow my market, let’s focus on the 98 Cobra and 98 GT coupes. I know nitrous and slicks can offer a lot of bang-for-the-buck performance, but they wouldn’t be practical for my application because I want a car that 1. will go fast whenever I mash the throttle without using up the bottle and 2. will handle relatively well in all conditions such as with wet pavement. Let’s say I wanted to spend anywhere from $10K-$15K on a car after the initial purchase and modifications. What would be my quickest combination for that price range that would give me a quick, well-mannered, reliable street car? I'll be doing the mods myself, by the way, so only figure for parts

By the way, even though I mentioned 12’s, quicker is always better. :2up:

[LSCobra]

I would avoid the '96-'98 GTs only because you'd be starting at a disadvantage from the get go. Unless the PI (Performance Improved) heads and intake have already been swapped, you're better off finding a nice '99-'04 GT.

[kurtwz]

What’s the deal with the heads? I’m starting out from square-one here with my knowledge, but this is just the info I was after!

[FMGT1999]

Stock PI heads (99 and up) have a performance advantage over non PI heads (96-98) while still in factory stock mode on the 4.6L mod engines. Now if you get either of the head types Port and polished there is no difference other then what you request in the port side of the P&P job. Meaning there almost the same once they have been port and polished to the same matching specs.

I also agree a NOS system is your cheapest route up front, but a blower or turbo system is a one time cost for most people, only hardcore speed junkies keep upgrading there systems to get more power...

Kyle

[Buford]

If you have a choice, fork over the extra money (which is not much really) and get the 4v Cobra. Either model Cobra would work. In the end, you'll spend less money to make it vs going with the GT

{Did I just type, what I think I just typed?} :screwy:

[Dark-5.0]

Agreed, Go for the 4V. Thats what I'm doing. Its a much better foundation to start from and you can make some quick times for not a lot of mods. Good luck with the decision.

Jeremy

[Saleen Guru]

Different motors in those year cars! But, if you just want time slip, use Nitrious! A few hundred bux can get ya in the 12's

YUP...:2up:

[97saleen13]

my car has a vortech bout 7 psi pi intake man. vortech fmu an aftermarket fuel pumpand a supertune 2 stage tune the rest is stock first tune hit 347whp and 2nd tune has probly 50 more to the wheels and thats with 6 cats :shrug: and no intercooler should run high twelves with some good tires i beat a t/a that ran 12.9 on the street just to give u an idea cause i pay out the ass to keep the car so power is on a small budget

[98powerstang]

Look to get a Cobra. I would have to say 99-01. Basically I like that model over the 94-98. My Cobra with 4.10 gears, flowmaster and a solid axle ran a 12.8. There is a guy over at SVTP who has a 99 Cobra and his mods are x-pipe and mufflers not sure of what brand, 4.56 gears and drag radials and he has beat a SRT 8 with 377 HP. Either way Cobra is the way to go. If you want a drag car go with the 96-98 they have a solid axle. If you want a car with power that has a smooth ride can handle corners good go with a 99 or 01 they have IRS. It all depends on what your looking for.:2up:

[98powerstang]

Here is the video.

http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/legionxxii/?action=view&current=srtcobra.flv

[Kinger]

my car has a vortech bout 7 psi pi intake man. vortech fmu an aftermarket fuel pumpand a supertune 2 stage tune the rest is stock first tune hit 347whp and 2nd tune has probly 50 more to the wheels and thats with 6 cats :shrug: and no intercooler should run high twelves with some good tires i beat a t/a that ran 12.9 on the street just to give u an idea cause i pay out the ass to keep the car so power is on a small budget
347rwhp!! On drag radials you should have no problem running mid to low 12's in decent weather!! Casey, PnyUp was hittin 12.50's on street tires, in an automatic convertable and no weight reduction, and only making around 350rwhp!! :2up: :hail:

[Kinger]

Look to get a Cobra. I would have to say 99-01. Basically I like that model over the 94-98. My Cobra with 4.10 gears, flowmaster and a solid axle ran a 12.8. There is a guy over at SVTP who has a 99 Cobra and his mods are x-pipe and mufflers not sure of what brand, 4.56 gears and drag radials and he has beat a SRT 8 with 377 HP. Either way Cobra is the way to go. If you want a drag car go with the 96-98 they have a solid axle. If you want a car with power that has a smooth ride can handle corners good go with a 99 or 01 they have IRS. It all depends on what your looking for.:2up:
Andre, with the Yellow 01 Cobra has ran 12.70's with exhaust, pullies, and a cold air kit.......untuned!! :hail: With the IRS Cobra's, you just gotta not be scared of launching and breaking half shafts to get the quicker times!! :2up:

[98powerstang]

Ya as long as you dont let it wheel hop your pretty safe. If you add some support back there your evan better. Those halfshafts break when people let it wheel hop to much or they launch to hard with no support.

[streetstunna600]

Look to get a Cobra. I would have to say 99-01. Basically I like that model over the 94-98. My Cobra with 4.10 gears, flowmaster and a solid axle ran a 12.8. There is a guy over at SVTP who has a 99 Cobra and his mods are x-pipe and mufflers not sure of what brand, 4.56 gears and drag radials and he has beat a SRT 8 with 377 HP. Either way Cobra is the way to go. If you want a drag car go with the 96-98 they have a solid axle. If you want a car with power that has a smooth ride can handle corners good go with a 99 or 01 they have IRS. It all depends on what your looking for.:2up:Why do you say get a 99 to 01??? 99-04 are the same car... Just wondering? Aaron

[dane01cobra]

he said 99-01 cobras, as they are different then the 96-98 cobras, and different then the 03-04 cobras.

[streetstunna600]

O I C now... Kinda confussed me...

[03cobra528]

so you want to run easy 12's in a great looking car with good street manners?

here ya go:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/03cobra528/Mustangs/04MysticCobra.jpg

[titaniumSS]

so you want to run easy 12's in a great looking car with good street manners?

here ya go:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/03cobra528/Mustangs/04MysticCobra.jpg

Not for cheap though :2up: trust me, i'm stalking a few on svtperformance.com and looking at some prices......for possibly my next car :2up: i'd say for him an 01 cobra, some sticky tires and some minor mods (gears for sure) and you should be in 12's if you can shift well.

[03rcode]

:2up:don't forget the 03-04 machs! 4v power at a relatively low price mine ran 13.1 BONE STOCK And they come lowered and have tokiko shocks and 32mm sway bar stock:2up:not to mention the cobra brakes

[dane01cobra]

but mach's break trannys

[Dark-5.0]

but mach's break trannys

This is true!!

Jeremy

[dane01cobra]

i would get a 4v cobra, only way to go

[gopher18]

i would get a 4v cobra, only way to go

:2up::2up::2up:

Just make sure you have good tires as well... :banana_dance:

[New Edge]

4v anything really. 99 cobras are selling for really cheap right now and they have pretty good potential N/A
if you have a full bolt on new edge cobra, 12's should not be a problem, this is not said from experience, but from tons of guys on svtp doing it. some with just exhaust and tires have hit 12's. i think 99's are going for around 11 or 12 grand so that leaves some money to build the irs and get some tires, gears and exhaust.

[64T-bolt]

I think this car could be had real cheap and it would appear to mod'd nicely, just needs a little tlc. . .



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